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Updated: November 24, 2009, 10:08 am

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For Sale by Owners - Proceed At Your Own Risk, Brokers Say

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Many sellers have decided to act as realtor and list their homes on different websites to attract buyers. Goetz house on Three Mile Harbor Road is on the market for $590,000. Photos by Katy Gurley

Southampton - Just mention the words "For Sale by Owner," and realtors cringe. Mention those same words to some sellers and they say with a pumped fist, "Yesss!" So, who's right?

Most brokers agree that sellers should always use a licensed realtor. Image courtesy of www.lookcharlotte.com.

It depends on whom you ask. For realtors, it makes little sense for a seller to go it alone, without the help of a broker and his or her existing customer base. For sellers who wish to save the realtors' standard commission fee of six percent and are willing to put in the work involved in marketing their homes, it makes perfect sense.

"I had an exclusive contract with a realtor and he had two open houses and I never heard from him again," said Susie Goetz, whose three-bedroom East Hampton house near the village is on the market for $590,000. She is selling the house herself.

"I've advertised the property and held open houses every Sunday, she said. "I do what a realtor would do and have had far more people seeing my house than when I was with a realtor." The property has been on the market for a year, and she has had one offer, which didn't pan out.

That she hasn't sold her house isn't lost on John A. Viteritti, a licensed real estate broker, lecturer and consultant to the real estate industry. Viteritti has probably taught most of the brokers on the East End; he teaches the local real estate courses offered by Long Island University at its campus in Riverhead. "With all my experience and even as a licensed broker, I would never sell my house myself," he said. He referred to statistics from the National Association of Realtors (NAR).

Broker John A. Viteritti. Image courtesy of broker.

"The difficulty of for-sale-by-owner transactions increased with challenging market conditions over the past year. The level of FSBOs was a record low 11 percent, down from 13 percent in 2008. The share of homes sold without professional representation has trended down since reaching a cyclical peak of 18 percent in 1997" said Walter Molony of NAR Public Affairs.

Many of these properties, he said, were not placed on the open market - 42 percent were "closely held" between parties who knew each other in advance, such as family or acquaintances. "Factoring out properties that were not placed on the open market, the actual number of homes sold without professional assistance was a record low six percent - the rest were unrepresented sellers in private transactions. The market share of open-market FSBOs is nearly half of what it was five years ago - 10 percent were sold on the open market in 2004."

Most buyers expect a house that is for-sale-by-owner to be cheaper than a house being sold by realtors, Viteritti said.

"According to the NAR, those sales that are negotiated through a real estate broker sell for 16 percent more than if the owner sells themselves. So, even when you consider you're saving the six percent broker's fee you're still losing 10 percent," he said.

Susie Goetz, who is marketing and selling her own home, finds that her house is getting more exposure since she's dropped all brokers and is marketing it herself.

"The market that we're in today is very different from a few years ago. There's an excess of product, but real estate brokers have the customer base that a seller needs," he added. "It would be impossible for me to generate that customer base on my own."

Another issue, he said, is that a for-sale-by-owner seller doesn't have the knowledge of real estate laws that a broker has.

But Linda Leahy, of Bridgehampton, is determined to sell her house on her own. She has had exclusive deals with brokers that haven't panned out in the past. A broker recently helped her list her house on MLS, the multiple listing service, as an open listing, which means any broker can sell the house for the full commission, and she has it listed on forsalebyowner.com, a national website that charges a fee for listing your house and providing a depth of information about how to go about selling your house on your own.

Leahy, who has her realtor's license but is not affiliated with any real estate company, has had her four-bedroom, 3,000-square-foot home on Williams Way in Bridgehampton on the market, off and on for three years. It is currently priced at $1,995,000.

"The house is now priced to sell," she said. "We are south of the highway and the house has a lot of good features." Still, she said, she hasn't been able to sell it.

A simple sign that can list a phone number can replace a broker's more elaborate sign.

She has had one response from her ad on forsalebyowner.com. A recent offer came in at half the asking price and she rejected it.

Greg Healy, VP of operations forsalebyowner.com said his site "provides the consumer a choice to empower them, give them confidence, education and full information about marketing to help them sell their home on their own." The main reason people choose brokers is that they don't want to do all the work themselves, he said.

But sites like forsalebyowner.com and www.owners.com offer step-by-step guides for selling your house on your own. For example, www.owners.com provides information on the following topics:

 • Deciding to sell "FSBO"
 • Pricing Your Home
 • Preparing your home for sale
 • Marketing your home to buyers
 • Holding an open house
 • Closing the sale

Other websites that have in-depth information and instructions on selling your house on your own include www.fsbo.com; www.homesbyowner.com; www.newyorkfsbo.com and www.Help-U-Sell.com. These sites will often help you find a local real estate attorney, who can walk you through the legal process of selling your home.




Comments

Gabby from NYC says:
Would love to buy from owner. Brokers do nothing but get in the way of your deal making. Very little upside in dealing with brokers.

Posted: 71 days ago

Allegra Dioguardi from Hamptons Home Stager says:
As a home stager who has been merchandising homes for sale for 27 years and sold my own home myself last year (full price, first person who saw it) I can attest, the logistics were a night mare. I know how to merchandise homes but I know nothing of RE law etc. However, it worked for me because my home was perfectly staged and I didn't need the professional help negotiating etc. that a the Realtor provides. Looking at that one small exterior photo of the house in EH above, I can see several ways that the presentation could be improved. The National Association of REALTORS® released a new statistic that 94% of buyers between 25 and 40 use the web as their first and primary source in the home finding/acquiring process. Your listing photos are more important than ever. The homes that show the best sell first. I recommend utilizing the talents with a team approach of a Realtor and a Stager if you want to sell faster and for more money.

Posted: 72 days ago

East End Broker from Hamptons says:
Why would a broker work for 2% when they can work for 5-6%? How much money do you want to make this week? Selling ones own exlcusives helps the sellers and the brokers also most FSBO's are not priced below current listings they are above and not advertised or promoted by the realotr community. Certainly some sellers benefit from this, most of the time it is just luck. So good luck you'll need it by limiting your options in a tough market.

Posted: 75 days ago

kpjc from EQ says:
For a Seller willing to post a sign in their yard and price it right, they will typically sell before a broker can. A seller has 5-6% to play with. If a seller prices their home 2% below what the realtor would price it, they are ahead by 4%. And realtors should not be greedy, if they charge a FSBO 2.5-3% and show the FSBO they would be better respected. If a realtor accepts 2-3% from a FSBO it is the same a co-brokeing with another agency. For those of you FSBO's-- clean and paint your homes,open blinds get rid of clutter. In this market patience is the key, even with the internet, buyers drive through the neighborhoods they desire and know all the homes that come up for sale.

Posted: 77 days ago

Lynne W. Scanlon from East Hampton says:
I'd love to buy an investment house out here, but prices have to be MUCH lower -- even for a house considered modest by EH standards. Most local people living and working on the East End cannot earn the kind of salary that would enable them to pay more than $1200 to $1700 a month (before heat or LIPA bills!) to rent a house year round or even pay a mortgage. Find me a house for sale where a local family is capable of covering the monthly nut (mortgage, real estate taxes, insurance) if not a down payment for a purchase, and I'll invest again. Terrific, well-written article.

Posted: 77 days ago

East End Realtor from Hamptons says:
Most of the open or fsbo's that are for sale are not priced properly and what is missing from the article is the price the seller wanted when they listed with a realtor. Typcally when the seller cannot obtain their price, its the broker to blame when the price is not realistic. Most brokers stay away from open listings as it doesnt help their business. I personally sell my exclusives so I can make a living. I will not show an open and have a buyer go around me to the seller and then hide the transaction under another name or LLC. Sellers shouldnt blast the industry if they have a bad experience with a broker. The industry has a low entry barrier and most of the "brokers" out there are pretty bad aprt timers or one hit wonders. One should locate an active full time broker and there are many good ones. Out of the approx 2000 licenses out here there are maybe the same hard working 150-200 faces that provide service on the East End. Interview one of them and you may have better luck.

Posted: 80 days ago

Tommi from Asheville, NC says:
Infotube.net offers Free real estate listings and a variety of tools to assist for sale by owners. InfoTube has been in business since 1988 and manufacturers the InfoTube and InfoBox sold at major retailers and hardware stores. Check out their website.

Posted: 80 days ago

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