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Added: April 8, 2010

Stony Brook's Plans To Shutter Southampton Campus Continues

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More support in opposition to closing of Southampton campus. (Thiele's Office)

Southampton - Below is a letter written by Bob Martin, Chairman of the Stony Brook Southampton Dean's Council.

On April 6, Martin met with Stony Brook president Samuel Stanley and Provost Eric Kaler, together with elected representatives from the East End of Long Island, including Congressman Tim Bishop, State Senator Ken LaValle, and Assemblyman Fred Thiele. The purpose of the meeting was to seek clarity about a rumor about plans to shutter the Southampton campus.

Crowds gathered to hear speakers and show their support.

In part, Martin states "President Stanley confirmed his decision to close the residential college, leaving in place the research presence of the School of Marine and Atmospheric Science and the Master of Fine Arts in Writing program.

President Stanley asserted that given a $33.5 million budget gap imposed on the Stony Brook University budget by Albany, he was forced to eliminate programs and campuses. He made the point that his inability to increase tuition or address personnel costs (union contracts) gave him no other option. He conceded that he did not consider other scenarios that would generate revenue or innovation programs to improve effectiveness and efficiencies. President Stanley indicated that he would explore other revenue generating options in the future but remained adamant in his determination to close the residential college.

The Stony Brook Dean's Council position is that the traditional state university model is outdated. Most states are facing the same budgetary issues and it is unlikely that the economy is going to provide the state revenues necessary to reinstate the funds that have been cut. Even if the economy recovers, the $13 trillion and rising debt the taxpayers must repay will only reduce state budgets in the future. A new model for the state university system is required and the Southampton campus is the perfect venue. By making Southampton the lead campus to address seemingly irresolvable issues it will allow the state to deliver on its verbal commitment to the people of Long Island and to leverage the $75 million to $115 million invested in the campus over the past two years. We suggest the appointment of a committee to envision the Southampton Campus on the part of Stony Brook and viable partners with the goal of creating a new model for the state university.

Politicians were on hand to encourage alternatives.

"There will be a lot of finger pointing resulting from the decision to mothball all but two buildings on the campus and to eliminate the visionary sustainability program. It is the Dean's Council view that the Southampton campus is a viable and strategically important location. The East End in itself is an environmental laboratory where artistic talent resides. A perfect fit to a well thought out vision. To abandon that critically important vision to close a fixable budget gap is inappropriate.

"The community is enthusiastic and the potential for their support evident. Impressive progress has been made on almost every level. Today we can say that Stony Brook Southampton is the only residential campus focused on sustainability; the only campus with an integrated curriculum that addresses a global priority; the only campus with programs that will produce graduates prepared to meet the challenges of environmental change. Certainly this is a vision worth pursuing.

The Dean's Council, Dean Pearl and her organization are in the process of preparing the strategic plan for the campus; one that accelerates the positive momentum of the sustainability program and leverages the full potential of the Master in Fine Arts program by expanding it into new areas. We therefore think it is reasonable to request that Albany and Stony Brook University work together to find an alternative solution to generating the $6 million savings while working with us to create a long-term, sustainable plan for the future of the Stony Brook Southampton campus as a vibrant educational institution."

Councilman Christopher Nuzzi also sent the following to Dr. Samuel L. Stanley, Jr., President, Stony Brook University:

Dear Dr. Stanley:

I was saddened and dismayed to learn of the drastic cuts that are planned at the Stony Brook Southampton campus. Including the purchase price, in the four years since becoming part of Stony Brook University, an estimated $78 million in state taxpayer dollars has been invested there. In that time the campus has garnered notoriety and praise particularly for their commitment to sustainability, reflected in their curriculum and the construction of the first LEED-certified library on Long Island. The fall 2010 admissions were expected to quadruple from the 2006 inaugural year, with continued expansion and growth on the horizon. It seems extremely short-sighted to throw away the substantial funds and resources that have been devoted to the school in the infancy of its growth.

Students have also formed organizations in support of keeping the campus open.


The presence of the university has also meant a great deal to our community in other ways. It has employed our residents in administrative, faculty, construction, and other jobs. The university has also provided the Town with internship support for budget and finance matters and the Town has inquired about similar positions for our sustainability initiatives. Stony Brook has afforded continuing education opportunities for both employees and local citizens, and has hosted numerous conferences, forums, and cultural events.

Despite the current financial challenges, I look forward to a productive relationship with Stony Brook University and remain hopeful that it can continue to operate in Southampton as both a regional asset and institution of higher learning

Sincerely, Christopher R. Nuzzi, Councilman

Below is a another letter issued on behalf of the students and school:

Dear Chancellor Zimpher and President Stanley:

We, the undersigned, represent the Southampton community as elected government officials. We oppose in the strongest possible terms the decision to close the Southampton campus. We believe the decision is ill-considered and contrary to the goals of public higher education in the State of New York.

In the interests of constructive dialogue, we offer a concrete proposal to secure the long term future of the Southampton campus and avoid the closure of the campus through a plan that will provide the resources required for success at Southampton. In the interests of a cooperative solution, we make the following proposal and seek an immediate meeting with you to discuss an agreement and implementation plan:

(1) The Town of Southampton, pursuant to its Community Preservation Fund (CPF), would acquire from the State University of New York all the development rights which attach to the 82 acre campus excluding land needed for development improvements and reserved area. The Community Preservation Fund can be used to purchase "rights in real property for the preservation of community character". Community character involves preservation of: (1) lands of exceptional scenic value, (2) recreational lands, and (3) historic places, all of these lands possess. The property is zoned R-60 and would yield a development right for each 60,000 square feet of land, resulting in a yield of 40-45 development rights. The value of all buildings and the value of the campus for education and other related uses would not be included in determining the worth of the development rights. Subject to the foregoing, the actual value would have to be negotiated and subject to a formal appraisal. The possibility of an installment sale for this transaction could also be considered;

(2) The Town of Southampton would reserve the right to "bank" these development rights to be utilized for changes of zone or zoning variances in other parts of the Town. In so doing, the population density of the Town would be unaffected and the sale of development rights could be used to replenish the Community Preservation Fund;

(3) SUNY would retain the underlying fee title to the land, which would include the right to use the property for educational and other similar enumerated not-for-profit purposes;

(4) SUNY would place the proceeds of the sale in a dedicated fund to be used solely for the operation of the campus as a four year residential college;

(5) SUNY would pledge to continue to operate the campus as a 4 year residential college;

(6) SUNY would transfer governance of the college from a satellite of Stony Brook to an independent separate college of SUNY within 24 months; and

(7) SUNY could not discontinue the operation of a four year residential college at Southampton without at least one year's notice to the public. Under such circumstances, the Town of Southampton would possess a right of first refusal to purchase the remaining interest in the property.

This proposal represents a good faith effort to continue higher education at the Southampton campus, which we believe is in the best interests of SUNY as well as the East End community. Further, this proposal would create a framework that insures the future success of this campus as an institution of higher education. Finally, it contains the flexibility required to permit SUNY to adapt to future education needs at Southampton.

We look forward to the opportunity to discuss this proposal at the earliest possible juncture.

Sincerely, (original signed by): Fred W. Theile, Jr., Kenneth P. LaValle, Anne Throne-Holst, Christopher Nuzzi, James Malone, Bridget Fleming, Mark Epley, J. Richard Boyes, Dominick Stanzione, Tim Bishop

Thiele also added: "Please find link below to SUNY's "Strategic Plan 2010 and Beyond" which was forwarded to my office. As you will see on page one (or three of 26), a map depicting SUNY campus locations fails to identify the Southampton campus."

www.suny.edu/powerofsuny/pdf/SUNY_StrategicPlan.pdf.


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Guest (Ralph Herbert) from Australia says:
copy of letter to editor. Dear Editor, We often get newsletters from our local elected Representatives, Bishop, Lavalle, and Theile, standing with a group of people behind a shovel somewhere, about to throw dirt on a new project, but now it is the burial of Stony Brook Southampton that they will be presiding over. Stony Brook, which provides an education to a huge number of foreign students at a tuition rate that is less than half that of most universities, is saving money by dumping 500 local students. How much of a subsidy is the NYS taxpayer providing to overseas students who enroll at SUNY? Students who go back to their home country to work in an economy that competes with us, and takes away our jobs. Tens of million of our dollars have gone into buying and growing this institution, and we have encouraged students to enroll here based on the exciting programs it offers. But now the students, taxpayers, and the East End community are left with nothing, a giant gaping hole in the ground, a $75 million spittoon. A recent article in Newsday indicated that about $320 million in donations has been raised by Stony Brook -the most successful money raising campaign in the history of the SUNY system -yet they can't find a few million to keep Southampton campus going until it grows enough to pay its own way. Clearly this was an easy bureaucratic solution to a financial problem but there are real people out here who will be hurt by this. Several months ago, the new president of Stony Brook, Samuel Stanley, (hired to bring a stronger research orientation to the campus), said he anticipated he'd be hiring 400 new faculty. Is that going to be accomplished at the expense of East End students. SUNY is a taxpayer supported system and has an obligation to serve the learning needs of its people, not to throw them out on the street to serve the interests of corporate research or to make room for students from overseas. Haven't we seen enough of our tax dollars taken from us and used to serve corporate and global interests. Come on Tim, Ken, and Fred, do what you have to, keep Stony Brook Southampton open. Do it for the little folks! Ralph J. Herbert 4 Sunset Beach Rd. Sag Harbor, NY 11963

Guest (henry) from bayside says:
to NEWLY ADMITTED FROM CT: Congratulations on your acceptance to college! A wonderful achievement for sure. I read in a few reports that newly accepted Southampton students have the choice to go to the main campus or get a refund of their deposits. Also, Southampton students were being given priority for dorm reservations & class registrations very soon. You should check Stony Brooks website for the dates so you dont miss out. Newsday, the Long Island newspaper, has some articles with a lot of information & if you google "Save Stony Brook Southampton Facebook", you'll get the link to an informative discussion page that you should look at. I wonder if the Stony Brook president expected such an immediate, wide-ranging and strong opposition to closing Southampton's campus. I don't think he's going to get away with it.

Guest (evan) from hampton bay says:
So the university preseident concedes he did not consider other revenue-generating avenues to keep the school open and insists that it be closed this year. He didn't consider other avenues because he wants that real estate. I believe there is an ulterior motive and bigger plans for the property already. He has a Hilton Gardens hotel being built on the main campus to "accomodate educational seminars and conferences". The lucrative deal includes Stony Brook leasing it back to the developers for $100,000 per year plus equity shares in the hotel and other perks for the university. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the kind of "new educational use" the president told Newsweek he is looking at for the Southampton campus. When he says there are no plans to "sell" the beautiful & valuable ocean-front campus, he may be telling the truth. He doesn't have to sell it. He can just hand it over to his hotel developer with a leasing agreement, convert the dorms to an upscale Hilton Inn, and conduct fancy "educational conferences and symposia" in the Hamptons. Probably will pack the place too if the conferences are offered in the summer months. So, those idealistic, environmentally conscious undergraduates who live and study on that campus are standing in the way of more lucrative & profitable opportunities for that real-estate.

Guest (SBU) from Southampton says:
Good story. Very well written.

Guest (Sad Student) from NY says:
Why did President Stanley cut the most important program? It is and was the environmental program that attracted students, and not the MFA program. The MFA program is basically non-existent. Is this a political move, President Stanley? Are you doing this for the "right" reasons? I wonder!!!

Guest (Julia Margaret) from Southampton Campus says:
Stony Brook Southampton is the home of 72 beautiful acres right between Sunrise and Montauk Highways. We can see the water from our campus. We have a marine science center on the water, accompanied with 5+ 'floating classrooms', ocean-going boats as well as pontoon boats to study the local bays. We have a brand new LEED Certified-Silver Library with a geothermal heating and cooling system- the first LEED building on any SUNY campus. Our Library holds the Pollack-Krasner archives collection. We have a wind generator that powers the Student Center. We have one the East End's historic landmarks- the Windmill, that was just recently renovated might I add. We hold Meditation in the Windmill twice a week and have 'Tea with the Dean' nights. All of our buildings are wireless and have the most advanced education technologies. A brand new baseball field was just installed. Some of our clubs include Scuba, Colleges against Cancer, Sailing, Marine Biology, Organic Garden and Greenhouse... We have a 90ft X 40ft organic garden where we grow vegetables for our cafe. We planted a fruit tree orchard last spring. We buy our coffee from the Shinnecock Nation. We get our apples from the Milk Pail. Our Fine Arts building houses the largest Shakespearean Theatre on the East End: Avram Theatre, as well as Avram Gallery which highlights local artists. We hold lectures, movie nights and events that are open to the community. We have classes that study the Sustainability of the Pine Barrens, Red & Brown Tides and Algae, Long Island Marine Habitats, Whales off Montauk, Green Business, Environmentally Friendly Architecture and more. Students do research on our marine, environmental and economic situations on Long Island. Our students do internships for Quogue Wildlife Refuge, Southampton Town, The Riverhead Foundation, Atlantis Marine World, Piping Plover recoveries, Wildlife Rescue Center of the Hamptons and the Peconic Land Trust. We organize beach cleanups. We work at your bakeries, hardware stores and coffee shops. We go to your gyms, bars, and movie theaters. We rent your houses that stay empty all winter. Is all of this going to waste? Do you not need us? Is this worth saving? SOS Save SBS

Guest (DA) from NY says:
It's easy to criticize Stony Brook University and President Stanley. To do so however is barking up the wrong tree, when Stony Brook itself is a victim of the state budget crisis. Yes, the state provided money for the purchase of the campus and renovations to its facilities. But where is the money to operate the campus? Instead, of increasing Stony Brook budget for what is obviously an expansion of its operating costs in Southampton, Stony Brook like other SUNY centers suffered significant budget cuts. SUNY was allowed to increase its tuition last year. But, that tuition increase only went to state coffers, and not back to the university. That does not even make sense, as the burden of covering the state's fiscal deficit was passed on to tuition-paying students. All these politicians complaining are just being politicians. They may have acted to fund the purchase of the campus a few years ago, but where are they now when the funds to operate the campus are needed? SUNY has proposed changes that would allow it to set tuition, and set up private-public partnerships for added revenues, but the state assembly does not want to act on those changes. You need gas to run a car. The state only bought the car. But where's the money for gas? You can vilify President Stanley all you want, but the true villains are up in Albany.

Guest (JOIN TO SAVE SBS) from Southampton, NY says:
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Guest (SaveSBU) from Hampron Bays says:
This is my first semester at Stony Brook Southampton. When I first heard of this campus and the sustainable programs in which it offered I was anxious to continue my education with this four year school. The walk through of the collage was outstanding, especially the faculty and staff. I thought that once I graduate from this school I would leave a positive footprint onto society! With this breaking news I am concerned, will I be able to get into another school? Will they offer my program? I am doing my masters in sustainable business and to my knowledge and research no place on long island offers such classes which would expand my impact and ideas on going green. I am really upset, what am I supposed to do now? If I have to change collages I will have to change jobs, find a new home, and hope that they offer all the classes I need. But how am I supposed to change my life so quickly! I hope some common sense gets knocked into this inconsiderate business man. So much for being green and speaking so highly about being apart of Stony Brook. Ohhh, and thanks for ruining my dreams! I wish him well with his high six figure income as I attempt to rebuild my foundation and find a school as good as Stony Brook Southampton! SAVE STONY BROOK SOUTHAMPTON

Guest (a greener way) from Southampton says:
The southampton community MUST WAKE UP! I believe there are bigger plans for this property. When a decision like this is made without allowing for any attempt to save the campus and worse yet, after investing ten times the amount that would be saved by its closure. One must assume there are personal agendas at work. Perhaps plans to sell the property for developers or plans for a casino. How ironic would that be? A school with a vision of sustainability and preserving the environment being replaced by a casino or extremely unaffordable housing. Please, we must all fight to save this school and our community.

Guest (Newly Admitted) from CT says:
I have recently been notified of my admittance to SBU, and I plan to major in Environmental Studies or Sciences. However, just this afternoon I heard Southampton was closing down. I am anxious as to how this could affect my decision, and this puts on added pressure to the May 5th deadline. I was hoping someone who knows more about this would be willing to leave me their e-mail so I can contact them to talk about it. This could have a big impact on my education and decisions I will need to be making soon, so I hope that someone will be willing to talk with me ASAP. Thanks, CJ

Guest (Truth) from Southampton, NY says:
I attend college at SUNY Stonybrook Southampton, an environmental campus in New York as a part of SUNY Stonybrook. The campus was opened 4 years ago, and $50 million taxpayer dollars went into investment on the campus. We found out Tuesday night via newspaper that our campus would be closed in order to save $6 million dollars for budgeting, after investing more than $50 million on the campus. We want to spread the message that SUNY Stonybrook’s newly elected President, Samuel L. Stanley Jr., look to cut sustainable education before anything else in their budget. Essentially, he has chosen to cut an educational regime of sustainability studies instead of luxuries, or perhaps even his own annual income (priced around $400,000). Now, because it is so late in the semester, most of us are forced to attend classes at the Main Campus with over 10,000 students, instead of our growing family of 500, all dedicated to the same cause. Most of us cannot transferee to other schools because we are either Juniors, or transferee deadlines have passed. Only 4 of the sustainability majors are going to be offered on Stonybrook West campus, and 5 of the majors have not been deemed “significant” enough for continuity. We are being forced to go to Stonybrook’s main campus and attend classes in a campus we did not pay to go to. We have no time to plan anything else. We want to save our campus, and save the investment of $50 million dollars of New York taxpayer money, we want to be continue our sustainable studies and save the Earth. We wanted to make you aware of this situation because State taxpayer money has been placed into this school, and we need all the help we can get. Please help us and our cause. They are not simply just shutting down “dormitories,” as the President claims, but essentially closing down all the classes (12 classes will be offered), they are closing down the NEW library, the cafeteria, the student center, and also all the dormitories, (including the 2 they are mid-way renovating for the accept 200 fall applicants which now won’t be allowed to come) essentially shutting down our campus community.

Guest (OneStepAtATime) from southampton, ny says:
As a current student and Junior of Stony Brook Southampton, this whole course of action being taken by Samuel Stanley is completely unfair and un- American. We as students, staff, faculty, and alumni lost valuable time in the effort to save this revolutionary campus due to the curtain that was thrown over our eyes when thoughts first came up to shut this campus. We find out about it through an article? After the campus assembly yesterday, the current president made it very clear that not only was he not going to budge on his decision, but that our say meant nothing. We meant nothing. The amplitude of incompassion shown was staggering. As soon as they need to cut money, they take it out of our education? and away from our environment? Not out of salaries, athletics or the course on harry potter? It seems to me that President Stanley is making a rather radical statement to the world, one that will fall onto Stony Brook University's shoulders, of being anti- environmental and sustainable. We at southampton will not be a number. We will not allow our dreams and hopes for the future to be destroyed. And we are going to fight for this. But we need help! please write letters or call your local legislators! Ken Lavalle (696- 6900) and Fred Theile (573-2583) We will save the world but we need you to help save us!

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